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Ginger Beer Concept (21 replies)

■ 🕑 5.
│  Lots of info to consider. What
│  does the term "dry" mean to you?
│  I have heard it in the context
│  of beer, like Asahi "super dry".
│  Also, I prefer light carbonation,
│  just enough to whet the appetite
│  and refresh you. Not heavy
│  carbonation you would find
│  in a lot of commercial soda.
│  I think I will take the soda
│  water route just to speed up
│  my first go at this, though.
│  I'll call it "Pohon Beer".
│  Maybe I can even add
│  jalapenos - plenty of them
│  in the building to go around!
│   
└─■ 🕑 6.
    Dry = all the sugars have been fermented by the yeast to Co2 gas and
    ethanol, basically. And they produce a lot more co2 than you'd expect!
    The contrast to dry, in the context of wine, is sweet: which makes the
    meaning of "dry" more clear.
    
    There are a number of ways to determine whether dryness has been
    accomplished, fermentation has ended.
    
    The easiest way is with a hydrometer -- when the specific gravity drops
    below 0 (eg that of water), most likely all the sugar (which is more
    dense than water) is gone and has been replaced by ethanol (which is
    lighter than water). Especially when the standard gravity is below 0 and
    remains constant for several days, that's a sign the yeast have finished
    consuming alcohol, and are now cleaning up after themselves before they
    go dormant and the hooch clears up.
    
    Co2 can still be released from the liquid after fermentation has ended
    so it's not a 100% sign that fermentation is still ongoing if Co2 is
    being released.
    
    For me, where ambient temps are 25-32*C, it takes about a week for 5%
    ABV to ferment with bread yeast (~85g sugar/liter) and then about
    another week for things to settle out. Higher ABV takes longer to
    ferment and longer for yeast to clean up after themselves. And you lose
    flavor.
    
    A cheaper way to see that fermentation has completed: when your airlock
    goes inactive (either stops bubbling if it's a proper one, or the
    balloon goes limp and deflates completely, if you go the balloon route)
    screw a lid on. Check every few hours for the next day to see if
    pressure is building up: squeeze the bottle to see if it's gotten
    firmer and unscrew the lid to "burp" out any Co2 (you don't want a bomb
    going off)
    
    When you test the bottle and no more Co2 is being released in
    significant ways, after 2 or 3 days of checking, you can move onto the
    next step.
    
    This is the time when you want to add 5g/liter of sugar and possibly a
    dash more yeast before sealing the bottle and letting it sit -- I think
    10g/liter could be feasible, especially in a plastic soda bottle for a
    heavy carbonation. But you're going to have to wait at least another
    week or two for the yeast to clean up after themselves and go dormant,
    making the drink safe to drink, even though it's only the bit of Co2
    you're looking for. Using clear plastic bottles is a great way to check
    "finishing" because the drink will become very clear when it's ready
    to drink. When in doubt, wait more -- it only improves the product!
    
    All you can really do is trial and error if you don't want to research
    about the finer details of carbonation or invest in more equipment. I
    think 5g/yeast per liter once fermentation is probably a safe starting
    point. Otherwise, double the ginger and ABV, then cut with soda water
    when it ferments dry. Takes maybe 2-3 weeks for a drink to be drinkable
    after starting fermentation, but more time only helps in making things
    smoother and more subtle.
    
    Whether you add more sugar at the end to produce carbonation the old
    fashioned way or you plan to mix your dry fermented ginger ale with
    soda water, make sure to pour slowly from your fermenter -- near the end
    you'll see the nasty "lees" (dead yeast and crap), you don't want any
    of that in your final product because it tastes foul and can give you
    a tummy ache.
    
    I'm only an amateur brewer & distiller but I hope this knowledge can
    help you. Feel free to update this thread with the results of your
    experiments. Try to keep logs: date fermentation starts, recipe,
    ambient temperature, date fermentation seems to end, etc etc. Brewing
    is an art and a science: either way, notes help.
     

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