| #4. Agree, but how do you define gatekeeping? |
| Published: 2024-07-16 [Tue] 02:52, by |
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I think you make good points, but how do you define gatekeeping? Because using it as a clutch can make communities stale. It'll just be old heads patting each other's back until death Sure you can encourage people how to act and discourage bad behaviours But I view that more as guidance rather than gatekeeping. I think a focus on gatekeeping is good for communities that want to stay niche. Otherwise you end up with the citizen police of online. That being said the strange world/heyuri thing linked here is a good example of gatekeeping. I love how they discourage wojaks and oomer talk. More sites should do that. As for what gyudon_addict said, I think having a mix of anon and pseudo users encourages healthy diversity. Focus on one too much and either you get toxic hellholes or egoboo central. For the scaling thing, I agree. It's best that anonymous places don't get bloated so there's nothing left but bad shitposts. It's best to spread other sites and encourage people find a space for them instead of trying to jam everyone in one location |
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| Published: 2024-05-24 [Fri] 20:51, by |
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Smaller anonymous communities, like Gikopoi and some textboards and smaller imageboards I think tend to gravitate towards a mixture of pseudonymous and anonymous users because that's the best model that they can thrive on-- people can still act like they "know" each other and maintain a culture without having any strings attached, and new people either fit in, adapt, or get filtered out. |
| #1. Does Anonymity really improve discourse? |
| Published: 2024-05-24 [Fri] 07:30, by |
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By anonymity, I really mean anonymity -- not pseudonymous communities Anonymity lowers the barrier to entry... for people who prefer anonymous communities. But a lot of people who want to invest a lot of real energy into a community, people who want to put work into serious projects, are not going to prioritize an imageboard over something like Discord or Twitter. The main purpose of imageboards is to give a toilet to the internet. Need to blow off steam? Vent? Post a dick pic? Get involved in petty debates? Or are you such a brain damaged person that you get banned from "mainstream" internet constantly -- you're the target audience for 4chan. Textboards and Gikopoi seem to have less tendency to go to complete ass than imageboards, so anonymity does not automatically imply shit. But this may just be due to the fact that these communities are very small -- and they have less bias against pseudonymity than imageboards As a counter-example, look at Sageru IRC for something that's generally lower quality than /b/, /soc/, /pol/ etc On places like IRC, Gikopoi, Mastodon, and other low-barrier pseudonymous communities, mentally ill people and naughty children are easily blocked, which creates a negative feedback loop that incentivizes the posters to either shape up or get out. On the other hand, with an imageboard, when trolling, someone can flame himself in the comments to keep himself in the spotlight -- an anti-feature. So my basic opinion is that anonymous and pseudonymous communities are essentially equally good when small, and that as communities scale, anonymous communities fare worse. This makes me think that gatekeeping is actually not a bad thing. I can't imagine that Something Awful would have done well without the $10 account registration fee, and something like Reddit wouldn't work without karma. Anonymous communities have no means by which to gatekeep, which is ultimately to their detriment What do you think? |