■ 🕑 1. Homemade alcohol │ Interested in making booze at home? │ Is saving money or making delicious drinks an appeal to you? │ Experimenting with new recipes or techniques? │ │ This a thread for homebrewers and distillers to ask questions, give │ advice, or share progress reports. │ (Pictures and experiences are very welcome!) │ ├─■ 🕑 2. │ │ I've been making alcohol at home for about a year now. I started with │ │ various wines (grape juice, apple juice, sugar water, and even orange │ │ juice) and naturally progressed to distilling about 9 months ago. │ │ │ │ These days, my favorite wines are lower % apple juices or meads, along │ │ with ginger ale, while my preferred spirit is vodka, in part because │ │ it's cheap, as well as because it can be further flavored after │ │ production... eg, going from vodka to gin is very simple │ │ │ │ For my "drinking wines" (as contrasted with "distilling wines") I prefer │ │ making lower % stuff because they have more flavor and are more │ │ generally drinkable. Everything I make, I ferment to 100% "dry" (no │ │ sugar remaining) and if I want to correct the taste, I'll add artificial │ │ sweeteners after fermenting. │ │ ├─■ 🕑 3. │ │ Making tomato paste wash (birdwatchers): 18L of 10% │ │ https://imgur.com/a/58rhQQc │ │ │ │ Doing a "stripping run" to produce "low wines" │ │ https://imgur.com/a/8DWdYKH │ │ │ ├─■ 🕑 4. │ │ │ Can I know if baker's yeast can make mead from honey │ │ │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 5. │ │ Sure can! │ │ │ │ I go for 150g honey per 1.5L, works out to be │ │ beer strength (around 5%). For best results, you │ │ want to keep adding small batches of honey every │ │ week or two. This keeps the yeast from getting │ │ stressed, improving flavor, and also lets you │ │ work to higher percents. │ │ │ │ Black tea and fruits at the end of fermentation, │ │ or throughout, will definitely improve the flavor │ │ ├─■ 🕑 6. │ │ stop drinking anon, you'll become gay dick lover like everyone. │ │ go out and r.pe someone instead. its better for your health │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 7. Ayoo cuh │ Nigga please, it's just honey, yeast and water in a bottle. │ ├─■ 🕑 8. │ │ Doing a "spirits run" now. │ │ │ │ I stripped ~60L of ~10% sugar wine to ~10L of ~40% low wines. diluted │ │ down to 12L. Feeling optimistic for how this will turn out, it's been │ │ a good while since I did some proper distilling... │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 9. │ Ack, maybe I should make the spoiler syntax be two percent signs instead │ of one, annoying formatting error... │ ├─■ 🕑 10. │ One of my last experiments was 4 parts apple juice to 2 parts cranberry │ juice (well, storebought juices, and the cranberry also has pear and │ grape juices mixed). It turned out fantastic! More sour than a typical │ cider -- in a good way -- with a lot more complexity. │ ├─■ 🕑 11. │ │ Started three new wines: │ │ │ │ 1. Apple:cranberry (5:1) │ │ 2. Blueberry:honey-water (5:1) │ │ 3. Mango:apple:peach (1:1:1) │ │ │ │ All should work out to be 10% in about a week from now, curious to see │ │ how they turn out. I really liked the cranberry:apple from before; │ │ wanted to try to do something with blueberry and honey just felt like a │ │ natural fit │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 12. │ The apple cranberry finished first: really I have to say, it's an utter │ delight to drink. Apple ciders fermented *dry* on their own can │ sometimes be a bit unpleasant, but somehow the more sour cranberry │ matches these off-tastes, and really ups the end result. │ ├─■ 🕑 13. │ │ Distilled ~14L of 40% alcohol from tomato paste wash (72L, 14%) this │ │ week. Sadly, they need another distillation or two yet to become a │ │ vodka, but it's been nice to keep busy. │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 15. │ For those who wondered, I got roughly 7 liters of 80% as an end result │ of hearts pickiness from a batch of low wines │ ├─■ 🕑 14. PURCHASE ALERT! │ │ A few kilograms of dry malt extract, various hops, food grade │ │ 20L / 5 gallon buckets, and airlocks with grommets are coming in │ │ the mail. My beer and whisky making arc will begin soon. │ │ │ │ I'm thinking of initially trying to make whisky via UJSSM tech but also │ │ considering making one from dry malt extract sans hops -- I hear hops │ │ are neither necessary nor desirable when producing whisky ... │ │ │ │ Big concern for beer production: I don't have any feasible way to │ │ carbonate beverages, whether in glass bottles or keg. So I guess │ │ it'll be "not even beer!" depending on one's definition. I'd love to │ │ buy a keg and CO2 tanks, maybe even a devoted fridge down the line, but │ │ wife is already annoyed as-is by the malt/hops/buckets/airlocks │ │ purchase. We'll just have to wait and see. │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 16. │ A month out and here's where we stand on the order: │ │ 1. Airlocks came first │ 2. Buckets came second │ 3. Dry malt extract is still in transit (???) │ 4. The hops seller cancelled the order. Tried ordering a few different │ kinds of hops from a few different sellers; they all seemed to cancel. │ I will have to try sourcing hops again later. Until then, I can │ try making a whisky once this DME shows up. │ ├─■ 🕑 17. │ Made like 3 liters "low wines" last night, probably going to get 5 │ liters tonight. One of the ferments didn't go well and I couldn't get it │ to really pick back up. Ah well, still getting my fun + cheap booze out │ of it :D │ │ I'm planning to make gin after doing a spirit run on this. │ ├─■ 🕑 18. │ Sipped on some apple cider with spices added, then some homemade vodka │ with coca-cola. Very tasty. │ │ In a few days, my first generation of UJSSM (kilju with cracked corn) │ will finish fermenting; after I distill that, I'll throw some backset │ back in the bucket with some new sugar to start a proper sour mash of │ corn whisky. Looking forward to it! │ ├─■ 🕑 19. │ Message removed │ ├─■ 🕑 20. │ │ Distilling my "sweet mash" UJSSM whisky now. I was surprised, the top │ │ layer of corn is gray but most of the corn is still good and yellow. │ │ It fermented pretty quick and it smells a bit corny but nothing │ │ really impressive. │ │ │ │ Once my distillation is done, I'll pour some of the "backset" (the │ │ beer without alcohol left in the boiler) back into my corn yeast sugar │ │ bucket and kick off a "sour mash fermentation." │ │ │ │ Right now I'm using cracked corn for flavor, partially because it's │ │ so damn cheap, but I've seen people speak very highly of corn flake │ │ whisky. │ │ │ │ Made about 6L more of apple cider this afternoon, too. I am a busy │ │ little bee! │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 21. │ │ I did the second batch of UJSSM whisky yesterday (aka, a proper sour │ │ mash bourbon) and ran it with the low wines from the first stripping │ │ run. After taking decent cuts, I diluted and blended all the jars today │ │ and mixed the better tasting stuff together. Ended up with 4x 700ml │ │ bottles around 43% each. │ │ │ │ It's nowhere near as smooth as it could be if I distilled it another │ │ time or carbon filtered it or aged it on charred oak for a few years. │ │ But for what it is, it's pretty good. I've been mixing it with Sprite │ │ and sipping it on the rocks. The bourbon is sweet, corny, and... creamy, │ │ almost buttery. It's a little hard to drink neat, but it adds some nice │ │ flavor to mixed beverages. │ │ │ │ My 3rd generation UJSSM is currently fermenting, 20L worth, along with │ │ another 20L of sugar-wine (kilju) that will end up as vodka. There is │ │ no more tomato paste for sale in my town so I tried adding some of the │ │ bourbon backset with some boiled yeast to serve as a nutrient for the │ │ new vodka. │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 22. │ I managed to drink 3/4 of a bottle of my bourbon last night (mixed with │ Sprite and Coca-Cola) while the most I've ever been able to drink of │ commercial whisky in a night is 1/4 of a bottle. And that 1/4 a bottle │ of whisky would always give me a terrible headache while I'm feeling │ terrific today. │ │ Whether that's a statement in favor of or against moonshining depends on │ your point of view... only $2 down the drain on that bottle, at least. │ ├─■ 🕑 23. │ │ 6 bottles of corn whisky, 3 liters of apple cider, and 1.5 liters of │ │ ginger ale ready for consumption. Bringing it to a party tomorrow night! │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 24. │ My friends (2/3) preferred the apple cider to ginger ale, but they all │ enjoyed everything. They were really impressed by the homemade whisky -- │ per my advice, they mixed it with Sprite (I brought several bottles of │ Sprite) and they had several servings of it. │ │ Had fun bringing the party in a dry county for $10-ish. │ ├─■ 🕑 25. │ Recently produced ~12 liters of "low wines" from sugar washes. │ │ Biggest game changer in my fermentation for distillation lately: │ I add a tablespoon or two of diammonium phosphate and tiny pinch of │ magnesium sulfate per ~20L of ferment I do. Seems to make a pretty │ big difference: ferments go faster and cleaner. │ │ Picked up about 200g of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) today and │ converted it to washing soda (sodium carbonate) by throwing it in a │ saucepan on the stove at a low heat and constantly stirring. Sure │ enough, I could see the powder "boiling" -- despite wearing a face │ mask, some funky smells came through. After about 20 minutes or so, │ the texture of the powder appeared to change, and the powder seemed to │ stop reacting. │ │ Spilled a little in the process. Post-cook weight of sodium carbonate │ was about 120g which is consistent with the theory. │ │ Tomorrow I'll be throwing my 12 liters of "low wines" into the pot still │ with 3-4 liters water and 4 tablespoons of washing soda. This should │ result in a large volume of hearts, which will be turned into... gin! │ this Saturday. │ │ Stay tuned for updates. │ ├─■ 🕑 26. │ │ Recently turned 80L of sugar wine (containing 12kg of sugar) into ~10 │ │ bottles of vodka. It was an easy and smooth process. Something that's │ │ really aided my hooching lately is adding a small amount of diammonium │ │ phosphate and magnesium sulfate to the start of fermentation -- barely │ │ a pitch, hardly a gram of each -- but it somehow makes a huge difference │ │ in fermentation time. │ │ │ │ I plan on turning most of it into gin, but with the vodka, I've made │ │ some knock-off Bailey's that turned out amazing well (and only cost $1 │ │ to make a bottle of!) and tomorrow I'll try making a blood mary. Tomato │ │ juice is not sold here so I intend to make some fake V8 from a mix of │ │ tomato, carrot, salad greens, onion, bell pepper and then I'll add a │ │ dash of worcestor sauce and hot sauce to the cocktail, along with some │ │ lemon juice. │ │ │ │ When I more-or-less perfect my Bailey's and Bloody Mary recipes I will │ │ share them here. │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 28. │ I need da baileys recipe │ ├─■ 🕑 27. │ I did the sugar water and baking yeast thing in a bottle.liquid alcoholic bread │ ├─■ 🕑 29. sad boy │ I tried turning 5kg of (dry) rice into rice wine, making use of a 20L │ bucket. I did not buy sticky rice and I did not steam my rice: I just │ kept throwing batches into my rice cooker. After rice cooked and cooled │ down in the bucket, I smeared in rice wine mold-yeast │ │ The end result was not good. Most of the rice became a thick, porridge │ like consistency. Despite containing high amounts of alcohol, the solids │ and liquids formed an undesirable team and possibly a 5th state of matter. │ │ Starting throwing slop a bowl at a time through a filter from one bucket │ to another, and as space began to emerge in the fermentation vessel I │ began adding water and shaking, in the hope to liberate more alcohol │ from solids. │ │ After many hours of pointless labor, my bucket with liters of thick, │ milky "rice wine" is just about a bust in my book. At least I can just │ distill it to make it not end up a complete waste... │ ├─■ 🕑 30. │ What I made today with waifu: │ - 3 liters ginger/lime wine (100g ginger, 1/2 lime per liter) │ - 3 liters apple/cranberry wine (5:1 apple:cran) │ - 20 liters sugar wine (4kg sugar, yeast nutrient) │ │ ├─■ 🕑 31. │ Wiki article on winemaking up: │ https://wiki.gikopoi.com/w/WineMaking │ ├─■ 🕑 32. │ Fresh fermenting ciders: │ https://booru.gikopoi.com/post/view/253 │ │ Post fermentation / aging dry ciders: │ https://booru.gikopoi.com/post/view/254 │ ├─■ 🕑 33. │ Processed ~20L of 12% ABV sugar wine to 4L of 40% ABV "low wines" last │ night. Next distillation this week is ~20L of "trix cereal" liquor: │ │ >18L water │ >3kg sugar │ >700g trix cereal │ >pinches yeast nutrient │ │ The idea is that the sugar produces alcohol, and the cereal infuses │ the alcohol, and provides additional nutrients and sugar to the yeast. │ I think it should end up as a slightly fruity bourbon, but who knows. │ Breaking new ground here! │ ├─■ 🕑 34. │ │ Started 13 liters of apple cider a few hours ago... │ │ airlocks beginning to show that fermentation has began │ │ │ │ And tonight, I'll distill my "Trix Cereal" wine │ │ (~18L water, 700g Trix cereal, 3kg sugar, yeast nutrient) │ │ notes on smell and taste will come.... │ │ │ ├─■ 🕑 35. │ │ │ Just started distilling the Trix cereal wine / beer! │ │ │ I wonder how it'll turn out... │ │ │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 36. │ │ │ The early part of the run has smelled very berry-like. Not what I was │ │ │ expecting, though I never eat Trix cereal so I'm a poor judge. │ │ │ │ │ │ As we approach the end of the run, the corn notes are starting to come │ │ │ through. It's interesting how different smells and tastes come out at │ │ │ different parts. │ │ │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 37. │ │ │ I got about ~4 liters out of my 18L 9% ABV Trix experiment. │ │ │ │ │ │ 700g of smashed and boiled Trix cereal with 3kg of sugar. │ │ │ Fermented for 1 week, allowed to clear a bit before boiling │ │ │ │ │ │ 1st jar (1.5L) smells very fruity -- perhaps berries and citrus │ │ │ ... but also very strong in alcohol │ │ │ 2nd jar (1.5L) is a bit more ambiguous. │ │ │ 3rd jar (~1L) is much more corny, but also weaker in alcohol. │ │ │ │ │ │ I will likely incorporate this with my ~10L of "stripped" tomato paste │ │ │ wash to make some kind of gin. The corn and berry notes should add a │ │ │ nice complexity to the juniper, coriander, et al. │ │ │ │ │ ├─■ 🕑 38. │ │ │ Sampling jar #2 of the Trix cereal wine (72% ABV), mixing with cola. │ │ │ │ │ │ The strongest flavors carrying through are corn with incidental │ │ │ berry / lemon sweetness. But the heads and tails present hinder the │ │ │ potential for tastiness. I feel like if it were to be distilled again, │ │ │ aged hearts on oak would taste as a pretty tasty bourbon .. │ │ │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 39. │ │ Mixed some of jar #1 with milk -- wondered how milk w/ cereal liquor │ │ would be. I'm not sure if it was the "heads" or what but the cocktail │ │ was almost completely revolting and not something I would wish upon │ │ my friends or enemies. 2/10 │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 41. │ fermentation finished in under a week; another week of aging made it │ quite clear and smooth. Great cider! │ ├─■ 🕑 40. 2025-04 ferments │ │ I started a 20L ferment tonight of a new recipe │ │ │ │ In the boiler: │ │ * 100g of homemade tomato paste │ │ * 100g of old bran │ │ * 8g of old yeast │ │ * 30ml end of old bottle of wine (mostly sludge) │ │ * 4kg sugar │ │ │ │ After cooling: │ │ * 50g baker's yeast │ │ * pinch DAP │ │ * pinch epsom salts │ │ │ │ just finished cooking this up. Never tried using bran as a nutrient │ │ before so I'm curious how it turns out. It should finish around 12% ABV │ │ or so, fingers crossed! I wonder how bran flavor will compare with │ │ tomato flavor... │ │ │ ├─■ 🕑 42. │ │ │ Tonight's ferment of 20L: │ │ │ │ │ │ * 4kg sugar │ │ │ * 700g "honey stars" breakfast cereal, crushed up │ │ │ * 30g baker's yeast │ │ │ * pinch DAP, epsom salts │ │ │ │ │ │ Breakfast cereals have tons of yeast nutrients and this one tastes like │ │ │ whole grain and honey. So this is more whisky-esque than the Trix cereal │ │ │ experiment -- I've tried it before and it turns out well │ │ │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 47. │ │ 6 days later and the SG is at 1.010. So maybe it's at 12% but can reach │ │ the full 13% with a bit more time. A pretty fast ferment. │ │ │ │ Smells corny and sour, cloudy yellow color. The cereal on top still │ │ looks and smells pretty good. This was a fun brew and I'm looking │ │ forward to see how it distills -- I'll give it a bit more time to │ │ finish fermenting and clear up. │ │ │ ├─■ 🕑 43. │ │ │ New ferment tonight: │ │ │ │ │ │ * 4kg sugar │ │ │ * 250g bran │ │ │ * 50g yeast │ │ │ * pinch DAP, epsom salt │ │ │ * fill up 20L bucket to top │ │ │ │ │ │ I cooked the bran for about 30 minutes before adding the sugar, │ │ │ never did an all bran but curious how it'll turn out. I want to compare │ │ │ tomato paste washes and bran washes once I get my new reflux still up │ │ │ and running. │ │ │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 48. │ │ This bran recipe fermented really well. 5 days later and it's below │ │ 0 standard gravity -- still pretty cloudy and lots of carbon dioxide │ │ going on, but it smells fine. │ │ │ │ So, according to ... science it looks like yeast like bran more than │ │ honey corn cereal (see >>47) │ │ │ │ while the bran doesn't smell bad, it doesn't smell good either -- even │ │ if the cereal takes 2 or 3 days longer to ferment out (which is │ │ nothing in the big scheme of things) I have a feeling it's going to │ │ have the superior end result │ │ │ │ After my reflux still comes, I plan to run a tomato paste wash and │ │ bran wash and do some blind tastings for the vodka they produce. I │ │ suspect they will be identical but we will have to wait and see. │ │ │ ├─■ 🕑 44. │ │ It's been ~4 days but the tomato/bran wash (4kg) is essentially done │ │ fermenting, with a SG of 0, so it's roughly 18L of 13% ABV. That is │ │ pretty magnificent from < $5 EUR worth of sugar! I'm going to give it │ │ another few days to finish fermenting and clearing before I run it, │ │ but that bran is no joke. │ │ │ ├─■ 🕑 45. │ │ │ Started 3 ferments today: │ │ │ │ │ │ - 1500ml apple cider │ │ │ - 250g honey, fill bottle with water │ │ │ - 210g honey, 500ml cider, fill bottle with water │ │ │ │ │ │ I didn't add any kind of yeast nutrients so I wonder if the honey-alone │ │ │ drink will be able to ferment. All the drinks will end up in the 6-8% │ │ │ range so I feel they should be able to ferment fine without extra help... │ │ │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 46. │ │ Started 4 more ferments: │ │ │ │ - 1500ml apple cider with sugar added (estimated ABV 8%) │ │ - 1500ml honey/water (estimated ABV 8%) │ │ │ │ 3 hours in, balloons are beginning to inflate . │ │ I didn't add any yeast nutrient but I think it should be fine. │ │ │ ├─■ 🕑 49. │ │ │ Started another cider today, mixed with blueberry juice (2:1 ratio). │ │ │ With added sugar, should ferment to 8% │ │ │ │ │ │ Also mixed some banana-flavored syrup with water until it should │ │ │ reach about 6.5% fermented. It smells terrific -- exactly like those │ │ │ marshmallow peanuts -- but I'm worried the yeast will struggle due to │ │ │ lack of nutrients. I added some blueberry juice with the thought it │ │ │ could provide some nutrition. │ │ │ │ │ │ This week I've distilled ~36L of 12% hooch to ~8L of 40% hooch -- │ │ │ the bran stuff. Sampled a bit of the bran liquor low wines. Very strong │ │ │ smell but subtle flavor. I'll do a spirit run tonight with the still │ │ │ filled up with 30% ABV low wines; I intend to make some gin. │ │ │ │ │ │ I feel a bit bittersweet about this week's distills. Probably by next │ │ │ week, my new, much more efficient still will be complete. I learned a │ │ │ lot from this little guy. Now he will sit in a box somewhere │ │ │ collecting dust because there is no market for tools like this. │ │ │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 50. │ │ That sounds delicious. No home brewing │ │ culture in your country? I'd like to │ │ try the banana drink. │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 51. │ │ 18 liters of 35% ABV in the boiler tonight. │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 52. │ │ when I get 6 liters out I'm going to shut off the machine │ │ starting to taste a lot of tails coming through now │ │ │ │ I estimate maybe 2.5L are hearts but I'll need to wait and let the jars │ │ air out before diluting, tasting, and blending. Really excited to be │ │ making gin again. │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 53. Spirit run results │ │ Pretty happy with the yields I got from $14 worth of sugar and trivial │ │ amounts of bran, tomato, and yeast. Water and electric are cheap so I'm │ │ not factoring them in to the total price. │ │ │ │ > Phase 1 │ │ 60 L of sugar wine (12kg sugar) │ │ │ │ Distilling these in 20L batches gave me.. │ │ │ │ > Phase 2 │ │ 20 L of 35% low wines │ │ │ │ Distilled slow, collected in small jars gave me... │ │ │ │ > Phase 3 │ │ ~7 liters boiled out │ │ ~4 liters of heads and tails to save for a rainy day │ │ │ │ ~3 liters "hearts" (all with consistent ABV, 70%) │ │ ~6 liters 40% spirit, dilute with water │ │ ~8x 750ml bottles of 40% spirit, will be turned into gin │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 54. │ I wanted to make a ton of gin but I forgot to do inventory on my │ juniper berry stash. │ │ Using this recipe, per liter : │ - 15g crushed juniper │ - 5g crushed coriander │ - 1/4 lemon peel │ - 1/4 lime peel │ - pinch various spices │ │ I steeped 2.5L of "gin" overnight, then took out the citrus peels and │ threw it all in the boiler. Heating up now but I'm looking forward to │ this. │ ├─■ 🕑 55. 2025-05 ferments │ │ A new month, a new subthread. │ │ │ │ Made 3 liters of apple cider tonight. Usually 5.5% ABV but I added │ │ enough sugar to bump them up to 8%. I prefer the lower ABVs because they │ │ ferment and age faster, but a big thing I get out of this hobby is │ │ practicing patience and appreciating things that wait in the future, so │ │ it's not a big deal. │ │ │ ├─■ 🕑 56. │ │ │ Cooked up a new sugar wash today: │ │ │ │ │ │ - ~18 liters water │ │ │ - 4kg sugar │ │ │ - 250g bran │ │ │ - boiled for 30 mins with spoon of yeast │ │ │ - pinch DAP and epsom salts │ │ │ - 50g yeast at room temp │ │ │ │ │ │ Smells pretty good, very wheaty and sweet. │ │ │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 59. │ │ After my strong success doing a 1.5x run of breakfast cereal with │ │ sugar, with various feints in my new reflux still, I was curious how │ │ running a "wash" on its own through my reflux still would do, after │ │ seeing that my new still can effectively reach azeotrope on relatively │ │ lower %s. │ │ │ │ The results were somewhat disappointing! Reaching azeotrope again took │ │ a lot of fiddling around and stalling, overall output was not worth it, │ │ and the output spirit (while quite drinkable!) was not what I was │ │ expecting. │ │ │ │ I think for the future I will be sending spirits stripped at least once │ │ to my reflux still, whether diluted feints or low wines. It does add │ │ time and electric use to the process relative to a simple one and done │ │ run, but I think the intermediary step is worth it, in terms of operator │ │ burden and quality of end result. │ │ │ │ Reflux is still a new world for me. But it's fun playing. │ │ │ ├─■ 🕑 57. │ │ Ran my new reflux still for the first time on 05-07, Wednesday │ │ │ │ After I took off foreshots, it stabilized at 78.3*C for nearly the │ │ entire run which means the stuff coming out was 96% ABV. Probably lost │ │ some due to evaporation, but wow. │ │ │ │ The takeoff rate was pretty slow because I'm using a hack until I buy │ │ a proper needle valve. 500ml per 2 hours. But still, 96%! │ │ │ │ I fed some old tails and heads from other runs into the boiler with most │ │ of a bucket of 12% ABV sugar wine that had breakfast cereal soaking in │ │ it for flavor. Some of the breakfast cereal notes carried through but │ │ it smells and tastes ultimately like a rum. Dilute down to the low 40%s │ │ and I ended up with 6 liters from 12 hours of operating time. │ │ │ │ Based on my math, the ~80cm of packing in a 2" pipe is achieving 13 or 14 │ │ "plates" worth of distillation when refluxing. A stripping run normally │ │ takes me 8 hours to pull out 4L of 40% that have a lot of off flavors, │ │ and running 18L of ~35% takes 9 hours to extract ~3L of "hearts" around │ │ 70%. So big picture, the reflux saves a lot of time for producing a │ │ clean, strong spirit. │ │ │ │ going to do another reflux experiment next week with the bran sugar wash, │ │ curious how it will compare to the cereal sugar wash. I suspect it will │ │ taste like a pretty good whisky. There are hints of whisky flavor in my │ │ breakfast cereal reflux (some of the heads/tails I dumped in were from │ │ my bran sugar wash spirit run) but it ultimately tastes more like rum │ │ than anything. │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 58. │ │ I forget how many days ago I started but I started doing UJSSM │ │ (cracked corn + sugar "whisky") a few days ago and started a │ │ birdwatcher's vodka (tomato paste + sugar) last night. My plan is to │ │ save the UJSSM hearts after I hit generation 2 with a mild amount of │ │ heads/tails to age on oak and send the feints along with birdwatcher's │ │ to my reflux for future experiments. │ │ │ │ ---- │ │ Expected ABV ujssm: 9% │ │ Expected ABV birdwatchers: 12% │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 60. │ │ Boiled out the "birdwatchers" today, got a bit over 4L, jars being 70%, │ │ 60%, and 38% strength. Once I get some more "low wines" from tomato │ │ paste wine, I intend to run them through the reflux with some │ │ sodium carbonate (washing soda) to see how that turns out. │ │ │ │ Smashed some matcha candies up and threw them into a jar of 95% ABV a │ │ few weeks ago. Diluted it today with a mix of matcha powder, creamer, │ │ water, and a dash of barley malt syrup, down to about 23% ABV. The │ │ matcha flavor is really impressive, lots of creamy goodness happening, │ │ and the alcohol is barely present. This stuff is on par with Bailey's │ │ yet a liter only cost about $3 to make (totally worth it) │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 61. │ │ I forgot to update the thread, but last week I started 12L of apple │ │ cider. It's finished fermenting -- only took 4 days -- but it needs │ │ time to clear up. │ │ │ │ I got some of the mead I made a few weeks back and freezejacked it │ │ today. Balanced it out with a little artificial sweetener and I'm │ │ impressed with how it turned out. Maybe 18% ABV, very strong honey │ │ flavors, and a nice satisfying amount of burn. │ │ │ └─■ 🕑 63. │ The gikocider cleared up a few days ago. I also started fermenting │ the second generation of UJSSM corn beer a few days ago and it's nearly │ done. │ │ Blog post on oaking/aging spirits -- may be relevant to oaking wines, │ maybe not. https://4x13.net/blog/oaking1.html │ └─■ 🕑 62. considering starting another batch of gikocider.